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Even with Neven Vision, Google is "one step behind Riya"

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Google has acquired Neven Vision to help the search engine develop technology that recognizes objects within images, the company said yesterday.

Google said it will make its Picasa photo-organizing feature even better when you are searching for photos -- it may make it easier to tag them and organize.

Google had looked at buying Silicon Valley start-up Riya many months ago, for this same function. But Riya's leader, CEO Munjal Shah, apparently looked inside himself and found the guts for an even bigger play: shrugging off Google, and building up an image search engine that could rank as competitor to Google itself, at least when it comes to photos. Google does not do a search engine for images by appearance alone. "We have already moved on to Riya 2.0," he wrote to us, in response to the Neven news. "Google is still one step behind Riya."


(Update: We put the quotation marks in the headline, to indicate the one-step advantage claim is Munjal's. Now, we have word from Bryan Quinn, the guy who runs photo site SpyMedia, and so knows something about photos. He disagrees. He says he has tested both technologies and says Neven's is better than Riya's.)


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Questions about Riya and Google
Excerpt: So many of you have left comments asking for the full back story on Google and Riya and why didn't they buy us vs. Neven Vision. I'm so sorry but for legal reasons I can't talk about it. We have
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I have used Riya's and Neven's technology, and there's no comparison. Neven's technology simply works better.
As for search? Google already has millions of users, while Riya is a company that still do this day is only cool to the "techcrunch crowd." Until Riya is able to attractive mainstream users, I can't see them competing with this combo.

Bryan on August 16, 2006 9:56 AM
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Matt:
Why does Google even need a PR outlet...you are it...there are so many great companies in the valley and yet you just happen to write about them on a day to day basis.
Cody

Cody on August 16, 2006 10:29 AM
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Matt:
Going forward just call Siliconbeat the following:

Googlebeat

Cody

cody on August 16, 2006 10:29 AM
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Google is the kind of company that:
1) does good due diligence on acquisitions
2) can afford to buy the first best

So where does that leave Riya, but out in the cold. I tried it and consider it a toy. Whomever funded this deal is in for a cold shock.

pix expert on August 16, 2006 10:40 AM
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Cody, that is fair in some ways. But I'd be surprised if the proportion of Google stories to overall stories hasn't gone down significantly since 2005. Here's why. For much of 2004 and 2005, I did think that Google was driving much of the valley's innovation -- in part because it had rekindled imagination and hope, as Marc Pincus, the-CEO of Tribe, said at the time. In my own mind, I was quite conscious of it. Now, in 2006, I am quite conscious that Google is no longer driving it. You will continue to see the proportion of Google stories decline at SiliconBeat. That said, they will also keep floating in, on occasion, as we see fit.

Matt Marshall on August 16, 2006 12:51 PM
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What makes Neven better than Riya? the accuracy or the user interface?

DB on August 16, 2006 5:53 PM
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Riya's FR technology is pretty mediocre. They just slapped together a few PhDs from Stanford and tried
to do stuff from scratch. The Nevenvision stuff has
a long history. Cognitec would wipe the floor with
either of them.

jimbojones on August 30, 2006 8:47 PM
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