Facebook latest to get ripped by Chinese site -- WTO, somebody, help!
Updated
Pacific Epoch's blog reports of a Chinese version Facebook, called Xiaonei.com, which has no relation to Facebook and is just a copy of the US site. Look at the comparisons. It is pretty ridiculous. Apparently, the Pacific Epoch folks, who we met while in Shanghai a couple of weeks ago, got the news from China Web2.0 Review, which even confirmed the fact that there is no relation from Xiaonei founder himself, Wang Xing. We messaged the Facebook folks last night about what they plan to do; still no answer.
UPDATE: First comment below suggests this could be bad karma because Facebook did the same thing to another company, or at least there was a claim that it did. We made a reference here to the suit (lower down) against Facebook from the company, but we don't know the details or subsequent developments. Several months ago, when we asked Facebook's chief executive Mark Zuckerberg about it, he shrugged it off, saying the suit hadn't really gone anywhere.
UPDATE II: Chris Kelly, Facebook's general counsel, just got back to us, but didn't really address the Chinese copycat site. He wanted to respond to our mention of the suit above. "The company's statement is that we believe the lawsuit is completely without merit and we're fighting it vigorously," he said. "It was brought by some kids who were disappointed that Mark [Zuckerberg] didn't want to work with them anymore. Mark was never paid anything by them, and there was never any formal connection between them." He did say the case is still pending, "because of vagaries of the legal system. When you have a fact-based allegation it is incredibly hard to get dismissed. Anyone can file a suit claiming anything. It is one of those things that drags on, and wastes time and resources, even for bogus claims."
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matt
wasn't the facebook also a rip off of another site from harvard. who is ripping off who?
all the best.
jack
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Copy cats competition is simply the nature of business in China. If anything appears interesting or has the prospect of making money, you can expect mushrooming copy cats in a short period of time(see my latest post). Especially in the Internet space, the barriers for entry are so low. But eventually, most of them will die out on their own.
Helen Wang on December 19, 2005 10:43 AMComment link
In general, the Chinese culture is one where schools teach pre-subscribed solutions to problems, vs. creative thinking. This has led to many entrepreneurs to establish businesses that simply copy existing models instead of creating new ones. Walk down the street in any major Chinese city, such as Beijing and Shanghai, and this will become very evident as you pass shops offering identical goods block after block.
This story demonstrates that U.S. companies that have created a successful model need to be looking at the China market *now*, and determining how to get into the market before too many copycat firms arise. Ignoring this massive market, and hoping that their successful business will simply be ignored and not copied is not a tenable solution.
The good news is that there is a dearth of solid managers in China who possess a successful track record in running Internet businesses. So, the likelihood for long-term success for many of these competitive entities is low.
Of course if it is *your* company's business that is successfully copied, the lack of success for other copy cats firms will offer you little solace.
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I don't think crying copycat in this case is warrented. This is simply competition. If this were copycatting, then all the ajax desktops you kept mentioning are copycats of each other, expedia is a copycat of travelcity, yahoo mail is a rip off of hotmail (or the other way around), and even pepsi is a rip off of coke. Where have all the lawsuits been in those cases?
George Cao on December 19, 2005 4:37 PMComment link
george- you obviously didn't see the screen shots. this is more than a inarguably copycat...
brandon on December 19, 2005 6:32 PMComment link
Brandon - Well, I agree it's pretty bad taste to copy the look and feel almost exactly. But, would it have been all ok had they used different css and graphics? If the answer is yes, then all this fuzz about copycatting is just as shallow as a few lines of css. Copying a business idea is probably as old as business itself, EVERYWHERE in the world.
George Cao on December 20, 2005 9:24 PMComment link
Maybe Al Gore can help you seeing how he invented the internet! Try giving him a call.
Hoodia on December 21, 2005 9:15 AMComment link
Getting interesting offers. How about getting it back to those Chinese with
Chinafacebook.com - It's for sale
Chinese Facebook on December 24, 2005 7:25 AMComment link