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AlwaysOn's Tony Perkins to launch GoingOn

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alwayson.jpgWe interviewed Tony Perkins about his upcoming Stanford conference this week, and he's got some interesting views (or here) about the bubble in China and online social media companies.

alternative_skin2.jpgWe also found out about an ambitious project he's about to unveil, called GoingOn -- but won't be fully launched until fall. Apparently, he has worked hard on this with help from Valerie Cunningham and Marc Canter. Click on image to see screenshot. As a member of Perkins' existing AlwaysOn site, you'll be able to expand your AlwaysOn profile with a personal page and a bunch of new tools. Within that same page, you'll be able to pop up the profiles of people you're interested in contacting, or, yes, dating -- and as we understand it, GoingOn wants to be able to do that seemlessly from other sites, including Friendster, Tribe and so on. It will apparently let you post blogs, photos, video to multiple networks and outside sites, too.

We haven't played with it yet, but the idea of full interoperability with member profiles of other sites is interesting. The others have been fairly closed; GO's platform will be an open standards platform.

We're not sure how they'll pull it off. Being interoperable is not entirely new. That's the vision of SXIP, a Vancouver company we last mentioned here. They sell a product that allows the same user name/password info to be used across many networks. SXIP is trying to get it adopted as a Net-wide standard. The only problem, we're told, is that it hasn't taken off, that very few people have bought it. So if Friendster/Tribe et al aren't using it, how will this work? Maybe GoingOn can jump-start it somehow. SXIP is still a young company. There's also Ping, of Denver, which does something similar.

Anyway, GoingOn users apparently will be able to create or join multiple AlwaysOn-like networks internally. They will be able „bake inš outside web services e.g. Flickr, del.icio.us, Bright Cove, Rojo, and your Skype, and IM buttons. Apparently, your photo will glow if you are on any GO network, so people will know you are signed on. You'll have a toolbar that follows you, too.

You can also include external blogs you have, as well as you get your own GoingOn blog that chronicles all the posts and comments you‚ve made on any GoingOn network.

You'll be able to maintain... (more)

and share complete audio, video and photo media gallery. Your profile settings allow you to set your privacy levels so you can limit what people can see (e.g. Only your „friendsš can see certain photos). There's apparently much more, which we didn't have time to get into.

The driving force behind this is a belief Perkins says he has in the future of media: "I believe the world is breaking up into millions of media brands, in a world we thought was going to end up in the hands of Rupert Murdoch."

"We believe we‚re going to go through a major transformation. I think a lot of the Web 2.0 companies, they‚re kind of last year. There are these silos. Orkut has been taken over by Brazilians. Friendster, everyone filled their profile out and went away. LinkedIn has become a big pain in the ass for people. The common interest in content is what creates communities."

The ideal web experience, Perkins continued, is one where you should be able to carry around with you things that are important to you. That‚s what Mozilla is all about in the browser area, he noted. Perkins says he wants to allow the user to create a network environment where "you as the operator can have a hand in building that."

Perkins tell us the first version of all this will be unveiled at the AlwaysOn site. Eventually, though, he‚d like to spin it out as an open source version, where users can manage their own network.

Perkins is hosting a private showing of the project at a lunch on Thursday during the Stanford conference: "We're inviting hard-core members of the blogging community to shoot holes in our plan," Perkins says.

We'll report what we find. Meantime, any thoughts? We want to go with appropriate ammunition.

Update:
--Canter unleashes here.
--Canter continued
--JD Lasica on GoingOn

Update II:

--Here's our report after the lunch about GoingOn's funding, etc.



Comments

Matt,

Your SXIP link is broken

-Ramana

Ramana Kovi on July 18, 2005 12:20 PM
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You should know that SXIP is only one of many technologies proposed for this purpose. LID (Light-Weight Identity) from us at NetMesh (http://netmesh.us/) is another, as are Identity Commons, Liberty Alliance, SAML etc.

For a reasonably comprehensive list of who matters in this area, go to http://cis-berkman.editme.com/Individuals -- a community on the subject of digital identity brought together by the Berkman Center at Harward.

Coincidentally, AlwaysOn recently published an article of mine titled "The Digital Identity Big Bang -- Coming to You Any Year From Now" at http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=10193_0_3_0_C.

Johannes Ernst on July 18, 2005 1:14 PM
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What happens if the SAME system supproted Sxip, XRI/XDI, LID, OpenID - all at the same place?

Would the issue of compliance and supporting standard go away? Woudl anybody care?

The GoingOnNetwork is committed to helping out ALL these folks and being a hub to everyone.

Marc Canter on July 18, 2005 3:04 PM
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Mr Canter - you have something to say but nothing appeared. I am fascinated to hear what you have to say.

Surj Patel on July 18, 2005 3:56 PM
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As to the question of multiple identity systems. I think any identity ecosystem has to support more than one standard. Having only one will make it easier for engineers (like myself) but is likely to breed distrust in consumers about who is controlling what and at having too few options. As Johannes has pointed out on his blog there will be more than one option. ( see the posts about Infocard from microsoft). We have to engineer for that with social and technology practices.Banking systems managed to build federated trust systems that consumers trust in and I think the same will happen in online identity. Also at some point they will no longer care as long as their idnetity provider is trusted and can perform due diligence on other identity providers. ( Think about it - the govt is your identity provider. )So people wont care - they will end up using the identity provider that is best for them or the needs of their identity.

Surj Patel on July 18, 2005 4:18 PM
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Bigger question is whether or not this is a space that these guys should be playing in. It is communications and i suppose that AO is a communications network, but do AO readers hang out at MySpace or Friendster? What bands do VC's listen to? I think its a GREAT idea, however the wrong crowd to deploy it in. Its what would be right up Yahoo's street or a major ISP.

Surj Patel on July 18, 2005 4:22 PM
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My similar question is where is the demand for such a hub product. Assuming there is demand for a hub also assume that people are interested in managing content and identities in multiple places. The hub only solves a small problem, the consumption of content. It doesn't solve the larger problem of facilitating content production nor content management.

Michael Gersh on July 20, 2005 1:35 PM
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"We haven't played with it yet, but the idea of full interoperability with member profiles of other sites is interesting. The others have been fairly closed; GO's platform will be an open standards platform.

We're not sure how they'll pull it off. Being interoperable is not entirely new."

I don't know either, but here's roughly what they *should* do:
http://openid.net/
with maybe a little from
http://www.downes.ca/idme.htm

Stephen Downes on July 21, 2005 6:39 PM
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If you're going to look at identity aggregation I think you need to look at Microsoft's InfoCard which *will* support as many identity systems as use WS Security and WS Trust. It's an identity metasystem plus a single secure desktop login experience. Kim Cameron discusses it extensively at www.identityblog.com

Mary Branscombe on July 28, 2005 7:25 AM
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Nobody knows Blogworking like Tony Perkins -- this project might look ambitious indeed, but then again a year ago nobody would have said that you could turn content from Bloggers into a printed magazine and AlwaysOn did just that.

Jesse Tayler on August 15, 2005 1:16 PM
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